tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post5535250058392783361..comments2024-02-06T07:49:22.830-08:00Comments on Evidence Based EFL: Why we need evidence part 2: How we know what isn't somallingualhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-21690208284452964772014-04-04T06:27:14.398-07:002014-04-04T06:27:14.398-07:00I am just going over my posts and I realised, with...I am just going over my posts and I realised, with some horror, that I never replied to this comment! Thank you (2 years too late?) for commenting. <br /><br />Thanks for your insight into this. I'm really interested in corpus stuff, but i hadn't really considered this. mallingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-6434711046178983202012-10-26T16:54:08.221-07:002012-10-26T16:54:08.221-07:00I actually have a "just" podcast which I...I actually have a "just" podcast which I made. I'm not sure I actually would teach a whole lesson on it, but it made up a 10 minutes or so podcast with some questions at the end. Not sure how efective it was but the kids seemed to enjoy it. mallingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-19479425034018216002012-10-26T11:10:24.148-07:002012-10-26T11:10:24.148-07:00Excellent post!
And I am all for teaching the word...Excellent post!<br />And I am all for teaching the word "just". I wonder how you go about it - want to exchange ideas?<br />LLeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16077987567636970527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-65061497240624650582012-10-22T16:23:38.774-07:002012-10-22T16:23:38.774-07:00Thanks Julie,
It's good to hear from someone ...Thanks Julie,<br /><br />It's good to hear from someone who is an expert in the field. I'll take your advice into consideration. I like the look of your blog. I hope to get some free time to read over it soon.mallingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-58782691779270860762012-10-22T16:21:42.727-07:002012-10-22T16:21:42.727-07:00abracadabra,
Thanks for commenting!
I think wha...abracadabra, <br /><br />Thanks for commenting!<br /><br />I think what we do teach matters quite a bit. A good teacher is important, but so are the materials. mallingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-70224846343487727902012-10-22T16:19:16.642-07:002012-10-22T16:19:16.642-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.mallingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13278408615407649532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-88823430883788905402012-10-22T16:09:16.731-07:002012-10-22T16:09:16.731-07:00I think you are dancing around the real issue rega...I think you are dancing around the real issue regarding "What" we teach. It is never "what" that is important but rather "How" it is done. <br /><br />Corpus linguistics is helpful for being knowledgeable about language in use, how it is used. However, it does in no way give guidance of what we should teach. Nor does it do a very good job of showing how language changes - it dates so quickly. <br /><br />Language is a very complex system and it does us no good to pretend we can focus on x, y and z as more important that a b or c. This is what I call the informational view of communication as opposed to experiential where the world/views of both parties are part of the equation as well as the language used. I'll prefer a good experienced teacher's sniffer any day - over a corpus and concordances. Oh - and about "just". I personally don't believe we can teach use. We can expose learners to its use, different uses in context but it is up to students to teach themselves. Acquisition is a result of comprehensible input, practice in context and use - not explanation. abracadabrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215958532321466788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5714045366168902489.post-30248292482594784032012-10-22T07:35:48.623-07:002012-10-22T07:35:48.623-07:00An interesting post and as a corpus researcher mys...An interesting post and as a corpus researcher myself, I totally agree that corpora are really useful for testing our intuitions about language and helping to inform teaching materials. <br /><br />However, one note of caution: whilst corpora are getting bigger and more comprehensive all the time, you do still need to be aware of what they actually contain and therefore, exactly what they actually represent. Certain types of language are much easier to collect (such as journalism) and so tend to be over-represented in lots of large corpora (esp. those used by EFL publishers). Spoken language is much more difficult to record and transcribe, so spoken corpora still make up a relatively small portion of most general corpora (and may not always represent much of a range of everyday conversation). Those of us working with corpora (such as lexicographers) do take these things into account (trying to balance spoken and written data, or ignoring lots of examples that all come from the same source). But if you're going to rely on mediated sources, such as dictionaries (or even, dare I say it, research articles!), you have to be aware of this and not take everything as 'gospel'. Julie Moorehttp://www.lexicoblog.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com